![]() So the first part of the sentence is quite clear now: The genitive ending or the postposition that corresponds to “of” is in AO – ghu from PE 3o/ho. To this the possessive ending – ba, from PE – wā, is added: dimba. The first person stem in PE is ni and which gives us AO di to which the pluralmarker – m is attached: dim. Q have different pronouns for inclusive and exclusive we which AO does not. To this word a derivative ending – ar (taken from Hurrian) has been attached so we get banar “meeting”. ![]() From this I have taken the stem whith the edentical root MEN which has developed to AO ban “ go proceed”. The Q word for meeting omentie has a stem ‘men’ and a prefix o- indicating “together” and a suffix -ie for rendering nouns. The last part is the most difficult and interesting because now we have to decide on how pronouns and cases/postpositions should work in AO. To this we could either add the allative ending which is -na in PE and gives us -da in AO or we could use a locative ending – shi from PE – ze. Another possibility is to render “star” from the Quenya word ‘elen’ which would give us zhán lūmē “time” > lúm > zhúm. We have the root EL which would simply become “al” but this is really too similar to the Elvish ‘él’. The first word starcould be seen as quite simple. Omentielvo “of our meeting” omentie “meeting” (lit.) “coming together of journey-path, meeting or junction of the directions of two people”, root MEN -lvo “of our” genitive form of 1st person pl. Lúmenna “on hour, noun allative, lúme “hour”, root ULU -anna case ending allative, the final a omitted because of the initial o in the following word. Síla “shines”, verb present tens of síla- “to shine”, root SIL “shine (white or silver)”. The sentence have the following elements:Įlen “star”, noun nominative, root EL ““lo, behold star” But I have the creative control of Angband Orcish and I have developed enough Angband Orcish to make some kind attempt at it. My understanding of Primitive Elvish is too poor to make me try to construct a version of it. I have long been thinking of what this would be in Primitive Elvish and my proto-Orcish, Angband Orcish (AO). In addition there is Telerin (T) version of él síla lúmena vomentienguo “A star shines upon the hour of the meeting of our ways”. One of the most famous Quenya (Q) sentences is the greeting elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo “a star shines on the hour of our meeting ” ( From Lord of the Rings). It would be interesting to hear what you think of this. ![]() I will use the dummy words *dinda and *dinga which at least for now does not mean anything in Angband Orcish. We can make this rule more general så all the similar clusters have similar changes. ![]() ![]() Zhán shila zhúm-da banar-ghu dighba or Zhán shila zhúm-shi banar-ghu dighba. The line “a star shines on the hour of our meeting” is then instead Yes I know the combination is found in the ring verse (gimbatul and the similar krimpatul) The problem is the – mb– cluster, it just sounds to much like Elvish for Orcish speech so I think I will add a phonetic rule that medially -mb- change to -ghb. To this the possessive ending – ba, from PE – wā, is added: dimba.” In the post were I coined it I wrote: “The first person stem in PE is ni and which gives us AO di to which the pluralmarker – m is attached: dim. I never liked the possessive pronoun ‘dimba’ (our) that I coined for Angband Orcish (AO). ![]()
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